1 00:00:00,940 --> 00:00:07,050 another kind of eh, close or distance relative to the pain of paying, is called 2 00:00:07,050 --> 00:00:12,450 mental accounting. And here's the idea of mental accounting. 3 00:00:12,450 --> 00:00:18,126 You know, sometimes companies have multiple departments, and what they do is, 4 00:00:18,126 --> 00:00:22,822 they once a year they assign money to the different departments. 5 00:00:22,823 --> 00:00:27,319 And the money after it's assigned is non-fungible, they can't switch it between 6 00:00:27,319 --> 00:00:30,357 them. And if one department runs out of money, 7 00:00:30,357 --> 00:00:32,912 too bad. If a department has too much money, you 8 00:00:32,912 --> 00:00:36,080 know, they make a big party where everybody gets a new laptop. 9 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:40,488 But the idea is that once money is assigned to categories, money is not 10 00:00:40,488 --> 00:00:44,820 fungible, and the idea of mental accounting is that we as individual 11 00:00:44,820 --> 00:00:49,684 consumers also work a little bit like the accountant, that we assign money to 12 00:00:49,684 --> 00:00:54,479 different categories and we spend money according to these categories. 13 00:00:54,479 --> 00:00:59,614 So here's a beautful example that Dick Taylor gives. 14 00:00:59,614 --> 00:01:03,930 And the example is the following. Eh, you bought a ticket for the theater. 15 00:01:03,930 --> 00:01:07,607 It cost you a $100. You get to the theater, you open your 16 00:01:07,607 --> 00:01:12,070 wallet and to your horror you discover that you lost the ticket. 17 00:01:12,070 --> 00:01:15,367 Luckily you have another $100 bill so you can buy another ticket. 18 00:01:15,368 --> 00:01:18,824 Would you buy another ticket? When people are aksed this question most 19 00:01:18,824 --> 00:01:20,572 of them say no, I'm not going to buy anohter ticket. 20 00:01:20,572 --> 00:01:22,579 I lost the ticket, too bad. I'm not buying another ticket. 21 00:01:23,580 --> 00:01:27,505 But what if you bought another ticket? How much would you feel, then, the theater 22 00:01:27,505 --> 00:01:30,516 cost you? Most people say $200, the first ticket 23 00:01:30,516 --> 00:01:33,154 plus the second ticket. That's case 1. 24 00:01:33,155 --> 00:01:37,030 Case 2, you haven't bought a ticket yet. You're going to the theater. 25 00:01:37,030 --> 00:01:39,360 You're going to buy a ticket. You open your wallet. 26 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,104 And to your horror, you discover that you lost a 100 dollar bill. 27 00:01:43,105 --> 00:01:46,096 What happens now? Do you say to yourself, oh, I lost a 28 00:01:46,096 --> 00:01:48,567 hundred dollar bill, let's not go to the opera. 29 00:01:48,568 --> 00:01:52,672 Most people say, how is this related? I lost a hundred dollar bill, why in God's 30 00:01:52,672 --> 00:01:56,910 name would I not go to the theater now? And then, and then they go ahead and they 31 00:01:56,910 --> 00:02:00,140 spend their hundred dollars and get a ticket to the theater. 32 00:02:00,140 --> 00:02:02,970 And then how much do you feel that the tickets cost you? 33 00:02:02,970 --> 00:02:06,029 A hundred dollars. Now think about both of these cases. 34 00:02:06,030 --> 00:02:10,537 In both of them, you lost a piece of paper worth a hundred dollars. 35 00:02:10,538 --> 00:02:14,580 Once it was called a ticket, once it was called a hundred dollars, but how it was 36 00:02:14,580 --> 00:02:16,937 called makes you feel very different, right? 37 00:02:16,937 --> 00:02:21,545 Now think back about the accounting story, if you assigned money to the entertainment 38 00:02:21,545 --> 00:02:26,079 department you gave them $100 and the entertainment department bought a ticket. 39 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:29,480 And then also take it you say too bad to the entertainment department. 40 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,190 I'm not replenishing you. But if you lost money from your general 41 00:02:33,190 --> 00:02:39,310 wallet, you don't feel any need to for the entertainment department to pay for it. 42 00:02:39,310 --> 00:02:42,567 Say, I lost $100, why should the entertainment department suffer for it. 43 00:02:42,567 --> 00:02:46,345 Here's a $100, go and buy a ticket. So there are a couple of things 44 00:02:46,345 --> 00:02:49,146 interesting here. One is that as we assign money to 45 00:02:49,146 --> 00:02:54,787 different categories, this assignment controls how we feel about the money. 46 00:02:54,788 --> 00:02:59,024 And the second thing is that money that we haven't assigned, money that is in our 47 00:02:59,024 --> 00:03:02,265 general wallet category, feels very, very differently. 48 00:03:02,266 --> 00:03:07,367 Another way to think about his is what happens when you get money back. 49 00:03:07,368 --> 00:03:12,141 What happen if you get some money back that is only assigned to one category like 50 00:03:12,141 --> 00:03:15,604 a gift certificate or off to something like a return policy. 51 00:03:15,604 --> 00:03:20,367 And all of sudden because it's assigned to one category, it's easy for us To spend 52 00:03:20,367 --> 00:03:23,110 it, we don't, it's assigned to that category. 53 00:03:23,110 --> 00:03:29,776 And here's another example for this. Image that you got paid $5000 dollars to 54 00:03:29,776 --> 00:03:33,540 do a workshop somewhere. And you did it in one of two ways. 55 00:03:33,540 --> 00:03:39,130 The money was either deposited in your checking account six months ago and now 56 00:03:39,130 --> 00:03:43,097 you show up in Japan and you have this Workshop to give. 57 00:03:43,098 --> 00:03:48,938 In the second case, they give you the money cash in Japanese yen as you get to 58 00:03:48,938 --> 00:03:51,890 the hotel in Japan. Now Japan is expensive. 59 00:03:51,890 --> 00:03:56,899 Everything is expensive, travel, food, drinks, entertainment, and so on. 60 00:03:56,900 --> 00:04:00,870 In which of those cases would you have an easier time to spend the money. 61 00:04:00,870 --> 00:04:05,280 In the first case, which was in your checking account, it's already a part of 62 00:04:05,280 --> 00:04:09,900 your checking account it's a part of your wealth and now you would feel bad about 63 00:04:09,900 --> 00:04:12,876 spending it. In the second case where you have all this 64 00:04:12,876 --> 00:04:16,972 amount of money and it's connected to your trip it's easier for you to spend it 65 00:04:16,972 --> 00:04:22,186 because it's more of a. Connected in the same mental category as 66 00:04:22,186 --> 00:04:25,664 your trip, easier to go ahead and spend it. 67 00:04:25,664 --> 00:04:31,673 Now you can also see why a, this notion of mental accounting is kind of connected to, 68 00:04:31,673 --> 00:04:36,708 eh, the pain of paying, and how to either distance or a close cousins. 69 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,260 Mental accounting, by the way, is also why we see all kind of strange things in the 70 00:04:42,260 --> 00:04:45,729 marketplace. Why we see, for example, leave money in a 71 00:04:45,729 --> 00:04:50,430 low-bearing, checking account with very low interest on one hand. 72 00:04:50,430 --> 00:04:55,186 On the other hand have high-interest credit card loans or car payment loans. 73 00:04:55,187 --> 00:04:58,900 And we ask people about it they feel like these are 2, 2 separate domains. 74 00:04:58,900 --> 00:05:04,476 These are savings and this is spending, and you don't differentiate the 2. 75 00:05:04,476 --> 00:05:08,640 And if you think about all of these notions of separating money into different 76 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:11,950 accounts and spending according to, these separations. 77 00:05:11,950 --> 00:05:16,022 It means money in our mind is not perfectly fungible. 78 00:05:16,022 --> 00:05:19,936 Money have budgets and depending on our budget allocation to the different 79 00:05:19,936 --> 00:05:24,332 categories that will depend our spending. Now mostly when we think about mental 80 00:05:24,332 --> 00:05:27,732 accounting we think about as a mistake in decision making. 81 00:05:27,732 --> 00:05:31,336 After all one of the main benefits of money is that is fungible. 82 00:05:31,336 --> 00:05:36,064 You can switch it from place to place but people don't treat it as fungible. 83 00:05:36,064 --> 00:05:41,404 But I would like to argue that mentally counting is actually a good strategy given 84 00:05:41,404 --> 00:05:45,082 our inability. So, what are we asking people to do in 85 00:05:45,082 --> 00:05:48,070 reality? We're asking them to think about every 86 00:05:48,070 --> 00:05:51,517 purchase, how it could translate to all other purchases. 87 00:05:51,518 --> 00:05:53,970 If I buy coffee today, what would I not be able to do? 88 00:05:53,970 --> 00:05:57,430 If I buy a car today, what I would not be able to do across all categories. 89 00:05:57,430 --> 00:05:59,929 Turns out, they're just too difficult to do. 90 00:05:59,930 --> 00:06:03,380 So what are people doing? We are restricting ourselves, and we're 91 00:06:03,380 --> 00:06:07,605 saying, okay this is probably not going to be ideal, but I'm going to think only 92 00:06:07,605 --> 00:06:11,268 about this bucket. I'm going to assign money to this bucket 93 00:06:11,268 --> 00:06:16,458 of, you know, let's call it dinners or entertainment or shopping, clothing. 94 00:06:16,459 --> 00:06:20,570 Vacations, and I'm just going to think about it in this, in this bucket. 95 00:06:20,570 --> 00:06:22,520 Is it optimal? Of course not. 96 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,825 Is it leading to mistakes? Of course, yes. 97 00:06:24,826 --> 00:06:27,710 But nevertheless it's constraining the problem. 98 00:06:27,710 --> 00:06:32,126 It's creating boundaries for it that are much more clear and therefore allowing us 99 00:06:32,126 --> 00:06:35,304 to work better. So if we were all perfectly rational, 100 00:06:35,304 --> 00:06:39,070 perfectly rational. Then mental accounting would not make 101 00:06:39,070 --> 00:06:41,747 sense. But given how difficult it is for us to 102 00:06:41,747 --> 00:06:46,906 think about money mental accounting does help us to partition the problem and at 103 00:06:46,906 --> 00:06:50,913 least get one step ahead. Now, if we're going to create solutions 104 00:06:50,913 --> 00:06:55,315 for people if we're going to create new digitized bank accounts and we tell 105 00:06:55,315 --> 00:06:59,252 people, think better about money. You can have two approaches. 106 00:06:59,252 --> 00:07:03,460 You could say, let's create something that assumes perfect rationality, and let's 107 00:07:03,460 --> 00:07:07,180 help people think about perfect fungibility and how to move money between 108 00:07:07,180 --> 00:07:10,480 accounts and what's the right thing to do. That's one approach. 109 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:15,660 The second approach is to say People are already adopting this approach of mentally 110 00:07:15,660 --> 00:07:20,330 counting, maybe it's naturally a good way for people think about money. 111 00:07:20,330 --> 00:07:25,148 And even if it's not optimal, and maybe what we could do is we could captialize on 112 00:07:25,148 --> 00:07:29,674 this ill built And approach for partitioning money, and let's help people 113 00:07:29,674 --> 00:07:32,627 do that better. So if I think if you think about those two 114 00:07:32,627 --> 00:07:35,550 approaches. It's kind of how we are trying to help 115 00:07:35,550 --> 00:07:38,806 people think better. Are we trying to get people to think all 116 00:07:38,806 --> 00:07:43,026 the way to level of perfect rationality. Or are we taking something that is kind of 117 00:07:43,026 --> 00:07:45,854 half way into it. We're taking something that people are 118 00:07:45,854 --> 00:07:48,784 doing, that is kind of the shortcut that we already have. 119 00:07:48,785 --> 00:07:52,147 To think about laughing, just trying to optimize that. 120 00:07:52,148 --> 00:07:55,582 From the two types of solutions, I generally more believe in the, in the 121 00:07:55,582 --> 00:07:58,365 second one. I believe that our, we have a better 122 00:07:58,365 --> 00:08:03,465 chance of succeeding by taking some natural tendency of processing information 123 00:08:03,465 --> 00:08:08,790 and building on that, rather than assuming it doesn't exist and build something that 124 00:08:08,790 --> 00:08:09,583 is perfect.