from: THE THIRTEENTH FLOOR Thousand Oaks, CA 2-13-98 Q: In the news lately...let me get your definition on one thing, what were the words, um, "You can't have your cake and eat it too." How would you define the definition of that? B: The idea, as the phrase is understood in your society, in some senses, is a little bit backwards, according to the meaning that we glean exists in your society's culture. The phrase really would be that you could eat your cake and have it too, not have your cake and eat it too. Because, obviously, you can have your cake and eat it, but the idea is that it seems less likely that you can eat it and yet still have it. But the general meaning of the phrase is that idea that is usually exemplified by the phrase we have shared with you, that most things are this and that, rather than this or that. In other words, things that in your society might, from one perspective, seem mutually exclusive, don't have to be. You understand? Q: So, in other words, we can have our cake and eat it too? B: In other words, you can eat your cake and still have it. Q: Yes, um.... B: In other words, you can allow both sides of the issue to co-exist and glean from both sides, which from one perspective seem mutually exclusive. Glean from both sides things that will assist and amplify the things that you require in life, without each side canceling the other out, yes. You can work with paradox, in other words, as we have said many times, for that is where the point of all your power lies, it's in the center in which you call paradox, and that is what that phrase exemplifies, yes. Q: Okay, and in the news lately this week. B: Yes. Q: There has been a lot of play on some ancient temples that NASA/JPL have found in Cambodia, which are much older than any known civilization on earth. B: Yes. Q: What can you tell us about this, about the origins? B: You will begin to find more and more and more indicators that there have been many ancient civilizations on your planet that stretch the idea of your history back much, much, much further than you think. Some of these are off-shoots of other colonies besides Atlantis that stretched from Lemuria in ancient times, 50,000 of your years ago. Some of these ancient ideas are old Anunnaki bases. Some of them are connected to the idea of extraterrestrial inhabitation over brief periods of time. But for the most part they are simply recognitions that cultures existed on your planet that are much more ancient than your present sense of history dictates. Q: Can you tell us what civilization and of what origin the civilization that built the ancient temples and.... B: They are the ancient Kimer. Q: The ancient Cairo? B: Kimer, Kimer, Ki-mer. Q: Is that a race of beings? B: On your planet, yes. Q; Were they native to our planet? B: Yes, even though they had extraterrestrial interaction, and like all of you, contained a high percentage of extraterrestrial genetics. They were relatively isolated cultural off-shoots, again similar to Atlantis, but relatively unknown on your planet. Another off-shoot of the same idea you will find stretched into ancient Tibet, and you will find some ancient temples there, as well, that are part and parcel of some of the similar off- shoots of the same ancient culture. Q: Okay. There's also, in Kentucky, been a psychiatrist who, not only saw, but very clearly video taped an extraterrestrial craft. B: Yes. Q: Can you tell us if this was legitimate? B: Not at this time. Q: Because it was photographed at close range with video tape and he invites skeptics. B: I understand. Q: You can't scan the event and.... B: Not at this time. It is closed to us. Q: Okay. B: Will that do? Q: Yes, I'm just curious. B: Yes. Q: Where are you now; are you still above Cairo? And about how far up are you? B: Yes, about 2,500 miles. Q: Is your increased elevation due to.... B: This is a decreased elevation. Q: Oh it is? B: Yes, we started at 3,000, if you will recall. The decrease in elevation, in general, represents coming closer to the day of contact. Q: Okay. Is there anything going on, from your perspective, in Iraq? B: There are many things going on in the area on your planet you call Iraq. Q: But you know what I mean, significantly in terms of world events. B: Yes there is a build up, as you know, of tensions as we have said, that still could lead to the idea of the expression of a terrorist nuclear strike. Q: Did we understand you correctly last time, in that you said that you were projecting that there was a 98% probability of that. B: This is correct. Q: Is it still at 98%? B: It is. Q: And is that of global nuclear war or limited nuclear war? B: It has not for some time been for global nuclear war. We have said this over and over, which is why we translate the phrase, "isolated, limited terrorist nuclear strike." Q: And where is it likely to occur? B: Either there in the Middle East or in one of your eastern seaboard cities in your United States of America, primarily 97% probability, New York. Q: Okay, can you tell when it's likely to occur? B: Again, there is only a probability window and, again, this probability window is sometime between now and your year of 2001. Most likely, either in or around your year of 1999. That is the heaviest concentration of probability; but this is not for certain, because nothing is. But there are other events that are also unfolding that may allow this percentage to drop radically, within this your present year; but this has not yet been decided by the collective consciousness of your people. We will keep you posted. Q: Okay. B: Thank you. Q: Thank you.