*The Titanic*


Q:  This week, the dive down to the Titanic wreck began - the wreck of the
Titanic, which sank in 1912. And they sent down the camera, and they
couldn't find a gash in the side where supposedly the iceberg cut, and sank
the ship. Have you any ideas of how or why the Titanic sank?

B:  Still, in this way, our perception is, as reported, that they simply do
not understand that there is not as broad an occurrence that was necessary
as they /think/ was necessary. They will find that a portion of it, in this
way, is still buried in what you call the silt.

Q:  Oh... and there is something that intrigues me about the Titanic. There
is a phrase that "God went down with the Titanic." What it meant was that
the period up to the time that the Titanic sank was the longest period of
peace in Europe since Roman times, and at that time man was very optimistic
that he could solve all his problems with his new technology. But after the
Titanic sank, just all hell broke loose. You've got the founding of the
Federal Reserve the following year, then World War I a few years later,
then the Russian revolution, and then the Wall Street crash and God knows
what else. Is there anything sort of symbolic about the sinking of the
Titanic that fascinates so many people, that you can talk about?

B:  There are always many events, in this sense, that your mass
consciousness, in recognizing the change about to occur, can use to
symbolize the change in that consciousness. That was simply one of them.

Q:  Okay.

Q2:  Do you think that this could have been a past life experience?

B:  For this individual here?

Q2:  Yes.

B:  Yes, I do!  (Audience laughter)

Q:  Yes! So... when I was "on" the Titanic, everybody was, like, moving
around having a good time.

B:  All right.

Q:  Well, when the incident happened, I suddenly saw beneath the facade,
beneath the illusion, that about fifteen hundred people were postulating
death, and the rest of them were postulating notoriety.

B:  All right.

Q:  And it seemed that, at that point, the ship had no choice but to sink.

B:  In a sense, yes.

Q:  The ship seemed to be subordinate to the will of the people.

B:  Oh, yes. It was your creation.

Q:  Why would the ship be subordinate?

B:  It is only a projection of your consciousness. It is made from your
consciousness, it is an extension of you. So you voted... and decided...
how to use that energy.

Q:  I was out-voted. (Audience laughter)

B:  In a sense, but in an overall sense you agreed to be out-voted.

Q:  So... did the plans of the Federal Reserve System go down with it - or
the plans to prevent the Federal Reserve System - go down with it?

B:  We do perceive that there is some connection to this idea, but not
necessarily in the way that you may think. One moment... (long pause)...
let us say this: it is our perception, and our perception alone in this
way, that not all that you may have thought was aboard, /was/ aboard. And
some of it has, in a sense, in your terms, disappeared into history. In the
sense that it has been destroyed - but not by being aboard the ship.

Q:  There was no sabotage, I suppose, you could say, in relation to that?

B:  Well, to some degree, but not directly. There were things that were
done that, let us say, were the sabotaging of ideas, to some degree.
Although again, let us say that to certain minds, the event, as it unfolded
to them, was fortuitous. For it covered up something that perhaps would
have been discovered later.

Q:  Fantastic, thank you.

B:  Thank you.