*The Second Coming*


Q:  Are you and your people familiar with Christianity?

B:  To some degree.

Q:  Well, I believe in Jesus Christ as our savior...

B:   When you say you believe in Jesus Christ, what does that mean?

Q:  That means that I believe in a God who created the universe, including
all of us, and that because we are all sinners, Jesus...

B:  One moment!  You believe you are a sinner?

Q:  Yes.

B:  What is a sinner?   Will you define this for me?  I understand the
concept of sin, but have not heard the concept from you.  Would you,
therefore, define the concept of "sinner" for me in your own way -- as it
relates to how you see yourself?

Q:  A sin for me is anything I would do or think that goes against
something God would want.

B:  What does God want?

Q:  God wants -- I guess, very simply, in order to answer it within the
time limit allowed here -- God wants me to show unconditional love in all
situations.  And any time I don't do that...

B:  One moment!  Did you say unconditional love?  Do you understand what
that means?

Q:  I understand it to mean that as far as people -- whom I'm supposed to
unconditionally love, for example, the people in here -- no matter who they
are or what they have done, as far as I'm concerned I love them because God
loves them.  If God loves everybody in here, I have no right to overrule
that.

B:  All right.  Now, you know you can create the reality of overruling it,
but we do understand what you mean when you say you have no right.  You can
do it, but that does not mean it is something you'd want to do, nor are we
suggesting this is something that would create harmony on your world.  No.
But simply take yourself literally.  People have very blatantly judged
others, have they not?  And it is not a matter of whether or not they have
the right to do it.

Q:  Is it wrong?

B:  There is no right and wrong.  It is a matter of whether you choose to
create a positively manifesting reality or a negatively manifesting
reality.

Q:  Which would you suggest?

B:  I would suggest the positive one.  Because choosing the positively
manifesting reality will be integrating yourself with All That Is, whereas
knowing yourself as separate from All That Is creates an idea of isolation
that does not allow you to feel your connection to All That Is.  This leads
to the need to dominate.  For when you separate yourself from All That Is,
controlling and dominating others is perhaps the only way you will feel you
can collect what you see around you, to you.  Thus, you create many ideas
out of separation and negative manifestation that are, in your terms,
unpleasant: war, disease and many other ideas you say you do not like.
This is why we would always suggest the positively manifesting reality.

However, recognize that we perceive the idea of judgment, in and of itself,
to be of the negative manifestation.  Thus, we do not say anything is right
or wrong, because that to us is to judge All That Is.  To us, even the idea
of judgment is the choosing of the negative.  To know what you prefer does
not mean that you have to judge or invalidate anyone else -- in terms of
the way that individual chooses to explore his own Godhood, to relate to
himself as his portion of All That Is.  If he has chosen separation,
negative reality, limitation, judgment -- then it will be less likely he
will perceive his connection to All That Is.

On the other hand, one who is integrated has already chosen the idea of
unconditional love, and will recognize that there is no need to judge those
who have not chosen it.  For unconditional love is the granting of validity
to everything within Creation -- for its own sake.  Because that portion of
creation has seen fit to learn about itself in the way it has chosen, then
you, in choosing unconditional love, generate the faith and the trust to
know that in an ultimate sense he is always going to be all right.
Ultimately, every idea is still contained within the overall idea of All
That Is, and cannot become lost.  There is nowhere to lose anything to
until you create that type of separation. There is nowhere to lose anything
to until you, in choosing negativity and limitation and separation from
yourself as All That Is, choose to create a dimension in which you can
remove yourself from the rest of everything.  Any idea you call a lost soul
is a contradiction in terms.  A soul always knows where it is.

Q:  What do you mean by a lost soul?

B:  The idea we are ascribing to many individuals expressing the specific
ritualized expressions through which they channel the idea of their love.
Many times, even though they express it to be unconditional, it still comes
with conditions.  We are not saying this is your case.  We are saying that
we are relating to the terminology you are using, by being so specific
about what you have described as the way you believe and what you have
called being a sinner -- which by your ultimate definition means someone
who is outside of -- has placed himself outside of -- his recognition of
himself as God.

Q:  My recognition of myself as God?

B:  Yes.

Q:  I'm God?

B:  Of course, understand this is what we are talking about, many of your
beliefs or religions on your planet speak of the idea of God -- or what we
call All That Is -- as being omnipotent, every where, all-knowing,
omniscient and all-seeing, everything, everywhere.  If God, by your
definition, is everything, how can you be outside of it?  You must also be
God; God must also be you.  God knows you are God.  Why do you not know you
are God?

Q:  Well, say I create a model... of an airplane.  I created it and put it
together, but it's not me.

B:  Yes, it is.  Understand that what you experience as your physical
reality is all a symbol.  If you wish to use the term illusion, all right.
That may clarify it for you.

Q:  Well, doesn't that illusion, or symbol -- it needs a representation,
does it not?

B:  It is a representation of an idea.

(Other): If you are the idea of making the plane, then you are the plane,
too.  Whatever idea you have, you are that idea.

B:  Yes.  You understand that everything in your universe is a matter,
physically, of vibration.  You cannot perceive anything that you are not.
The vibration you are creates what you perceive the physical reality to be.
 Thus, if you have created this idea of a model airplane in front of you,
then you are extending a portion of the idea of yourself and reflecting it
back to yourself as the ability to do that outside yourself, seemingly.
But everything you perceive, every individual in the room is your creation.
 You have to create your version of them in order to perceive them.  You
follow me?

Q:  Kind of.  If I am dedicating my life to following Jesus Christ...

B:   Why would you want to do that?  He did not want you to do that.

Q:  He did not want me to do that?

B:  No.  He does not want you to follow him; he wants you to be like him.

Q:  Well, that's kind of what I mean.

B:  Then say what you mean.  Understand that your terminology is what we
were discussing; that upon your planet many times the terminology you
choose reflects how you go about relating to the ideas you think you
believe in.  And in this case you are saying that by following someone, you
are separating yourself from, and making yourself less than, rather than
being equal to -- which is what he wanted you to know.  That all of you are
Christ consciousness like he is.  The idea of following "the way" was not a
matter of being subservient, but of being equal and reflective, being that
energy that was being demonstrated.  That is "the way."

 (Other): Do you think that's why maybe we are so limited?  Because we, or
Christianity put trust in Jesus Christ and not in ourselves.

B:  The idea is that any time you take the power that you are, and remove
it from yourselves, you place a limitation that actually denies your very
existence -- what you have been created to be!  So yes, in that sense, the
definitions are what is responsible for creating the limitations.  To some
degree, the idea of what has been described as many of the attributes and
experiences are all valid; any tool is a valid tool if it gets you where
you want to go.

*The Second Coming*

But the idea is that your society, as we perceive it -- and again this is
not meant derogatorily -- has placed many labels, many definitions which,
in and of themselves, are really the only thing responsible for limiting
your ability to see that you are all the Christ.  And that is what it is
all about.  If you want to find the idea of the embodiment of Christ
consciousness, go home and look in a mirror.  And then start acting as if
you are that embodiment, and you will be fulfilling the idea that the
Christ consciousness sought to impart to all of you.  What you have
referred to, in your society, as the "second coming" is not the coming of
an individual; it is the recognition within each individual on your planet
of the Christ that each and every one of you is... and living like it.
That is your second coming!

Know that the manifestation in physical terms of, what you call, the Christ
actually happened far more often than once.  And the idea is that in every
endeavor, in every projection of the Christ as a physical expression, what
was being shared with your population was that you are all part of the
Christ.  The idea was not that only Christ can create the reality you
desire, but that your power to create that reality is a part of what God
is.


The idea is this, at the time the information was delivered in your
society, the concepts that were understood by your civilization then could
only translate the idea in terms of being a ruler and being ruled.  And so
you created the idea that the Christ was a savior who would do everything
for you -- rather than understanding that Christ is only a reflection, a
reflection to each and every one of you that you are aspects of the Christ,
and have an absolute right to create the elevation and ascension of your
own energy as a representation of that energy.

Q:  Well, when Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth and the life; no one
comes to the Father but through me, " what did he mean by that?

B:  He was saying, to paraphrase, as you understand your language now,
"What you perceive in me is the vibration of integration, wherein I know
myself to be on the same level, equal to God, All That Is.  The only way
you will know yourself to be that idea is to be like me, to be of the equal
vibration of recognizing yourself as All That Is."  That is why he said, "I
am the way."  He did not mean, "I know the only thing that will get you
there."  He simply meant that you, in allowing yourself to know that
everything you do is valid in the overall sense, are granting support and
service and validity to the ultimate idea of the Creation itself, and
recognizing your own equality to Godhood.  That is being the way.

Q:  You said something -- and people kind of laughed when you said, "He
didn't say, I know the only way."  But he did say:  "I am the way, the
truth and the life.  No one comes to the Father but through me."

B:  Understand this as well, what you are calling your biblical literature
contains less than 10% of what that individual ever said in his life; and
what was even written down is very much misinterpreted, according to the
understanding of when it was written.  Recognize that your Bible was not
written to record history; it was written to convert.

Q:  Is the Bible not true?

B:  It is true for those individuals who wrote it, in the way they
understood it.  But recognize that there is still much misinterpretation of
what was actually said.

Q:  How do you know that?

B:  We are sensing into the mass consciousness, your higher levels of
consciousness.  Now, we cannot expect you to take us at our word.  It is up
to you to believe what you want, as we have said.  But we will discuss with
you what we perceive to exist within your own higher consciousness, which
knows itself to be equal to the idea of the Christ consciousness.  We can
talk to it, and so can you.  We are simply here to let you know that you
can talk to your own higher consciousness; and once you allow yourself to
do so, you will find that it will tell you exactly what I am telling you
now.

Q:  Well, that's what I believe, okay?

B:  Absolutely!  It gets you where you want to go, and that is what
matters.  We support you unconditionally on your chosen path.  And as we
often have said, every path is valid; no one belief is any more valid than
any other belief.  They are all equal.

(Other): All ideas are valid, including the idea that no other idea is
valid.

B:  Yes, very good.

*The Only Son*

Q:  Was Jesus Christ the only son of God?

B:  The individual you call Jesus of Nazareth is but one facet of the
overall Christ consciousness, or world spirit.  Each and every world, each
and every civilization, has its own version of that Christ consciousness.
In our ancient remnant language -- which we no longer use, as we are
telepathic in our society -- the combined consciousness of our entire world
was called Shakana.  Our Shakana, your Christ consciousness, and the
combined consciousnesses of all other worlds together form the Infinite
Creation.

Our relationship with your Christ consciousness is very direct and
interactive, since we are interacting with the combination of all the
consciousnesses upon your planet in order to be of assistance to you.
Therefore, we experience a direct interactive and unconditionally loving
relationship with the vibration you call the Christ consciousness, because
it is all of you.  Since we come from outside of your sphere, in a sense,
in order to be of service to you, we must interact through that sphere.
Thus, we will take upon ourselves the patterns of the unconditional love it
expresses in order to translate into your dimension of experience the
symbols to which you can relate.  So our experience, our relationship with
the Christ consciousness in many ways is very direct -- sometimes very much
more so than many of you allow yourselves to be.

You may also note that one of the physical manifestations of the direct
Christ consciousness that many of you have not recognized is the being you
call Mary, the mother of Jesus, who is the female polarity of the Christ.
There is always male and female in the collective Christ consciousness.
From our perspective, what this basically means -- in relating it to what
you now call your New Age, or your transformational age -- is that, as we
have said, the so-called, "second coming" is no longer the manifestation of
the Christ consciousness in a single embodiment.  It is the awakening of
the Christ consciousness within all of you, so that you may literally
create heaven on Earth -- all of you doing so as children of God.

Recognize that the idea, as it has been translated into your language, is
usually interpreted as Christ being the Son of God, whereas Jesus Christ
actually referred to himself as the son of man.

Q:  He called himself the son of man?

B:  Look in your own Bible.  He calls himself the son of man.  Do
understand that the writings of what was verbalized by Jesus of Nazareth
were not even begun to be committed to paper until approximately 57 years
after the death of the physical Jesus.

Q:  Well, you talked about the Bible being misinterpreted through the
years.

B:  Yes, every single written idea contains some misinterpretation where it
regards placing ritual around the idea of what happened.

Q:  God couldn't have watched over it?

B:  Why should he?

Q:  Because it was His work.  He wanted it...

B:  No, no, no.  Understand, it was a reflection, an offering, a gift.
Unconditional love.  God is unconditional love, and will not force you to
interpret something in any way, shape or form.  It is up to you; that is
why you are here.

Q:  So the word of God, the Bible, according to you is not the word of God?

B:  Yes, all of it is.  As all the people who wrote it were also God.
Understand this: it is all relative.  The word of God is all relative to
itself.   God contains every paradox, every paradigm, every dichotomy,
every blending.  God is all that is; there is nothing outside. You are All
That Is; your space in which you live, your time -- which you spend so much
of wondering who and what you are -- all of those things are creations from
your idea of who you think you are.  You are one idea of God.  Every being,
all beings in creation are all the different ways God has of looking at
Itself.  That is what it means to be All That Is.  Every dimension, every
being, every thing, every thought: it is all God.  And many of those things
come into creation simply for no other reason than the fact that they can.

Many times, when you ascribe more importance to this passage or piece of
literature than some other passage or literature, seeking for some ultimate
idea of truth, you are at that moment diversifying, focusing and fixating a
portion of All That Is, and not looking at the whole -- which always sees
Itself as whole.  The idea of knowing yourself to be God is simply allowing
yourself the broadest possible definition of that concept, and knowing that
for God, that is real.  God knows itself to be its own being, but also
knows itself to be the compilation of every being within it.  And knows
every being within it to contain the totality of the whole.  For as you
say, nothing is impossible to All That Is; if you can conceive of it, it is
real to All That Is.  On some level, some dimension, some aspect of
consciousness, it exists.

Now, when you do this separating out and searching through and analyzing
all of the different passages in literature, many times you go about doing
this because you are looking for this ultimate purpose. Recognize this:
existence is; All That Is is!  It always was, is now, and always will be.
Existence does not have its existence within time; time exists within All
That I, therefore, it is eternal.  Therefore, understand that the concept --
 and any concept that is created within All That Is -- is in a sense
subordinate to it.  Ultimate truth, as a concept, and purpose, as a
concept, are things that exist within existence.  And existence existed
before there was the concept of purpose.  That which existed before the
concept of purpose does not need a purpose to keep on existing.  Thus. All
That Is will express and manifest in all the ways it can -- for no other
reason, for no other purpose other than It can, because It is the Creator.
And the Creator creates, again, simply because It can.

*Changing Symbols*

Your symbols are valid for you.  You have changed your mind before, and you
will change your mind again about what symbols are relevant in the
understanding of whom and what you are.  It does not matter in the overall
sense what you choose to believe.  If you know that you are believing what
you are believing out of unconditional love for All That Is, and also,
equally important, unconditional love for yourself, then there is no need
to worry about what you believe.  There is no need to worry about what
anyone believes, since you know that whatever you believe is going to
create the type of reality you will be experiencing.  And experience that,
you will.

Q:  The only thing I'd like to say is if that's what you believe, what
you're missing is a relationship with the God who made you.

B:  Why?  Understand again, you yourself are missing the idea that I
perceive both ideas.  I contain the totality of the dichotomy of the
polarity of the seeming opposites.  I know myself to be All That Is; and I
also know All That Is relates to me as a higher consciousness.  I can
create the idea of knowing I have a relationship with All That Is; at the
same time I can also see myself as the one creating that relationship, and
therefore being All That Is.  To me, this is not something, which is
mutually exclusive.

I can create whatever sense of relationship I wish; and I know that
whatever sense of relationship I create is still going to be as real as any
other sense of relationship I choose to create.  And for me, all of it is
valid, and all of it is being created out of joy and ecstasy and
unconditional love, the expression of the same unconditional love that the
Creator created us to be.  That is how I perceive the relationship. I am
always in the relationship of All That Is, within joy, love and ecstasy.
For us in our civilization the feeling of this ecstasy is the expression
and the experience of what you are defining as the sense of that
relationship.

Q:  Why is that not happening here?

B:  Because for the past 25,000 years, approximately, you have chosen as a
group consciousness to explore the idea of separating yourselves from your
memory of being All That Is.  And now you are turning over a new idea.  You
are through with the separation, and that is why you are creating this idea
you call, a new age of understanding, a new age of awareness -- in light
and love.

Q:  Well, who's doing that?

B:   You all are.

Q:  These few people here?

B:  No, the entire planet.  Or you would not be on it.  Because that is the
idea of this planet that you are on, to create the transformation, to begin
to recognize yourselves as All That Is and create a positive world.  Now
that you know that you are the Creator, peace, harmony, light and love can
result.  Now you are through with the tool of separation.  Within the time
span of approximately the next 30 to 50 of your years, all of your
civilization will also recognize this.  For when you created separation,
you created the experience of more time. That is why experiencing all the
limitation and separation has taken you 25,000 years.

When you now choose to create the idea of integration, of knowing
yourselves to be All That is, then this experience can be played out upon
your planet in a mere two to three thousand years.  And after that point
you will not need to reincarnate upon this planet, for it will have served
its purpose for you.  You will move on to something else.

Q:  What I want to know is: if all of the people here know that whatever
they choose to do is okay, then why do they need to keep coming back to get
questions answered

B:  It is not necessarily that they need questions answered; it can also be
an opportunity for sharing, for blending, for appreciating all the
different ways All That Is has of expressing Itself through all the
different individuals you are.  Each one of you is a different path, a
different way.  So recognize that if there were only one way to do
something, there would be only one person.

... Take a look around you.

Also understand that it is not the original person who comes back.  Each
being that returns "again and again" is a completely new being, a
completely new idea of him or herself, and a completely new universe. So as
it is not the same person, in that sense, no one comes back, even if he has
been here 40,000 times.

Q:  How does the Holy Spirit work in this world?

B:  The idea is that our perception of your Holy Spirit is the collective
electromagnetic mentality, the actual energy out of which all of your
individual minds are created.  Spirit meant in this sense is literally a
physiological phenomenon, an electrical phenomenon, an electromagnetic
phenomenon.  It is the literal light of your world, of your consciousness.

And again, the way it works is as follows: it is an energy sea in which all
of you as individual components are immersed.  And being immersed in that
sea, when you align with it electromagnetically by accelerating your
vibration in ways we have discussed -- excitement, service, positivity, and
so forth -- you then become of the spirit.  What that basically means is
you flow in harmony with all other beings; you telepathically link with all
other beings, and know all thought.  Because the idea is that telepathy is
actually more precisely defined as telempathy -- emotionally activated by
love.  And that is what the Holy Spirit, or World Spirit, is.

*Catholic Church*

Q:  What is the origin of the Catholic Church?

B:  Many of the rituals now embodied in Catholic ritual came from ancient
Druidic practices, remnants of the priesthood hierarchy in the Atlantean
civilization.  These rituals were redefined to fit notions of the different
councils and leaders, and so these misunderstood notions of hierarchy were
handed down to the congregation.  Mostly it is one of the offshoots, as are
many other religions on your planet, of ancient Atlantean priesthoods.  It
went through a phase redefinition through Druidic practices, emerging in
areas on your planet that would support the definitions of intermingling --
of not only the ancient Druidic practices, but also some of the
interminglings that took place a few thousand years ago with many Orion
incarnations -- on certain levels.

Especially where rules and regulations are concerned; especially where
structure is concerned; especially where very deep and heavy energy is
concerned -- there was, to some degree, a reaction to some of the
negativity spawned in the sinking and the destruction of Atlantis.  The
idea of placing a very strong hold on certain aspects of the will, so that
through that belief it would be believed you would regain reconnection to
the Infinite through suppression, through order, through domination.

Q:  Well, it's a pretty popular belief that Jesus Christ actually
instituted that...

B:  Oh, no, no, no.  The individuals around that individual instituted it
to some degree, but not that individual.  That was never the intention of
that individual.  But you see, the point is that those disciples, or
apostles, were also full of the knowledge of some of the ancient Druidic
practices at that time.  Their interpretation of the Christ consciousness
was dispensed according to those ancient understandings, and interpreted
through that flow line into the basic structure you now have.  That was
their understanding at the time of the arrival of the Christ consciousness
through that particular manifestation.

It was not the intention of the Christ consciousness to establish that
particular type of structure. It was the intention of the individuals
surrounding that individual, because that was their understanding at the
time, based on what they already had learned of some of these ancient
practices.  They were, to some degree in their own understanding,
continuing the lineage.  But there was much misinterpretation.

*After Death*

Q:  What happens when we die, then?

B:  Different things.  You will, first of all, obviously no longer consider
yourselves to be physical, as you now understand physicality.  And when you
remove yourselves from that physical state of limitation, then you will
know you chose everything you experienced in that life, and thus, you can
create any other type of reality on this planet, or any other planet -- or
not reincarnate at all.  You can choose to know on that level, and see very
obviously that you are, in fact, the Creator.

Now, what you will first encounter at physical death is the idea that you
are a thought form in a world of thought forms, and thus, will usually
experience whatever represents the strongest beliefs you had in life.  You
will experience the realization, the seeming physicalization of those
beliefs, whether they be heaven or hell or anything in-between.

For instance, if someone had the idea that there is a hell and that it
would be extremely painful -- if he immediately finds himself in that self-
created scenario, he is very unlikely to be able to sustain that degree of
pain.  For as soon as he knows the pain he is enduring is not something he
can tolerate, it will lessen -- because the mind in the non-physical
reality instantly translates into the seeming experience he is having.  The
instant he becomes aware that as soon as he changes his thought the
scenario around him changes, then he will get the idea pretty quickly that
he does not have to hang around in that scenario. It becomes clear to him
that whatever he believes at any given moment, even on that level and
especially in a sense on that level -- is what most quickly manifests and
realizes into the experiential reality he is having.  Not meaning to sound
flippant, but "hell," the concept you usually hold it to mean, could only
be populated for very long by masochists, by true masochists.

*Further Reincarnation*

Q:  So I could go on to another plane and not be reincarnated?

B:  You do not have to be.  It is always a choice.  Now, since you are
here, I will assume you did choose to reincarnate at least one more time,
into this lifetime you are in now.

Q:  It's not my first life?

B:  No.  There is, on the average, two to three thousand lives for every
individual in the room, with regard to the particular Earth cycle you all
have been involved in during the last 50,000 or so of your years.

Q:  So why?

B:  Why not?  Because you chose to.  Because you chose to explore the idea
of limitation as it is being expressed on this planet.  And to do so, you
chose to manifest yourselves in many different lives; to explore all the
different ideas of beingness you can explore in this society. Thus, you
have been everything there is to be in your world at one time or another --
sometimes more than one time.  Everything!  As this is now the
transformational life, this life can be the last physical life you may
choose in this cycle, since it is now over and turning into another cycle.

Q:  I want to ask more about Jesus.  I've been reading a lot on his last
years, and I want to know about the period of time when the information was
erased from the Bible.  Did he go to India, and at what age?

B:  There was the idea of travel to the area of India.  We perceive that
there was a connection at age 17 and also age 30, approximately, and also a
connection in the area you call Egypt.  In addition, there was the idea of
many out-of-body experiences in order to travel to many different places
other than those mentioned.  Do recognize that what the being was allowing
himself to know was his own Godhood, his own Christ consciousness.  And he
was simply reflecting to you that you can do it too.

Q:  When you repeat exactly what he said, that reveals the whole thing: I
am the way, the truth, and the life."

B:  Yes, it is self-evident.  You see, that is why we are suggesting you do
what he did, and not simply follow him.  For if you follow, then you wind
up saying, "He said this; he said that," rather than repeating what he said
and feeling the vibration within yourselves for what it gives you.

Q:  We are the ways, the truths, and the lives.

B:  Yes!