Robert 6 : Side 2 B: ....There is no way to pin this down in your linear time. Q: Because you said that you interacted with the Anasazi and the Mongolians and they were, you know, fairly recent in our civilization. B: But the idea is that we interact on a number of different levels in a number of different ways. And we did not give you all the details of the style of the interactions. You are at this point attempting to pin something down linearly that really has no linear answer at all. You must see us and our interaction and intersection with you as a series of cyclic loops. Without beginning, without ending, but cyclic. We interpenetrate at different timings, yes, different points of what you would call, history, in a variety of ways, yes. You will even find a literal reference within what you call your ancient Middle East. For some of our interaction there energetically ... for part of a civilization named themselves after their perception of us. You will find this from about what you call 200 AD to 1000 AD. They are, in that sense, in the Middle East of what you now call Iran, the Sassanians. There is an entity in that time frame with a name, Mazdak. In that sense it was an entity that recognized, through certain psychic methodologies and means, the idea of a vibrational connection to our civilization and an incorporation of many of the principles of our civilization were attempted to be infused into the society at that time, although of course, it took its earthly bent, in its own unique way. Expressed itself as other than the way it came across, but this was the nature of channeled interpretations at that time. Though they were understood as high vibration they were still adapted to the methodologies and the culture of the day. One moment, one moment....for what you would refer to as the inception seed even though we are cyclic, let us just say it is approximately, in the moment of the entire conception linearly of the human race, of what you call now the modern version of about 300,000 of your years ago. We were in the inception seed concept of the collective consciousness that dispersed and diffused itself into all the manifestations /now interacting with/ /itself/. All the manifestations of one being, a large being , now interacting with itself from a variety of directions, and representative of what you would call many different races and cultures and civilizations and timings. Q: And in relation to the Greys and their not being accepted into the Association because of their interference with our civilization .... B: One level of them. Q: Was the level that was discussed in the book that went to Mars another level? B: Yes...there are factions of the Greys that are a part of different confederations, but again, as we remarked the idea of our Association, it is also slightly different than what you understand to be your /Federation./ Remember that we are in an alternate reality universe from you.. Our Association is like a parallel construct of what you call, perhaps, or allude to as your Federation in your particular universal reality in your particular local. Q: So they're not... it's not an identity there then? B: There is no Grey to be an identity in our reality. We are what they have become. Q: And is there any problem with any kind of microbe ... contamination with the beings from Mars? B: No. Q: And, his idea of sending radio signals to Mars and the Moon ... a way to contact them? B: Yes. Q: Are they operating on that level? B: They can, they will in time, maybe? But it is an endeavor wish attempting but not any further than that, for there are no radio civilizations within your immediate star systems that would respond in that way. But within your own solar system there are beings who have the capability of responding that way should they so choose. Q: And the last thing is the idea that they are covertly hiding out from us because they're afraid of coming out and not having the proper recognition. What about the idea of the UN or the United States? What type of scenario are they looking for? B: They are not looking for a particular scenario except that which contains the open heart and the open hand. However this can be accomplished will be the first establishment of the communication. There are many among you that have ideas for different ways in which this might be approached. Attempt all that you feel are representative of the concept of open heart and open hand. We will leave the rest for now up to you. There are now, many, many, many, many, many, changes, speaking of changes in the collective conscious -- recognition of many of the things that are going on, on your planet, especially with regard to more and more and more and more and more awareness of extraterrestrial interaction and consciousness. You will now find that there is going to be much more, a flood more of information between your now time and what you call the end of your 1997 year regarding the whereabouts and the possibilities of beginning dialogues and interactions with certain extraterrestrial species. Many gates are now opening, and I am talking about something quite physiological. You are going to find startling and stunning and staggering opportunities for interactions as long as you maintain a high degree of integrity, /and this is paramount -/ a high degree of integrity and alignment within your own sense of responsibility, you will find that within the next 2 orbits of your time there will be very strong opportunity for interaction. Not perhaps with whom you think - something surprising. Though we have discussed this many times and though we have referred to it obliquely, you will find now there will be more direct references. The references we have already given are basically as follows: there used to be what you call millions of years ago in your kind of counting, a civilization upon the planet you call Mars. We have told you that many of the Martians in that sense, as you would recognize them , after there was a natural disaster that rendered their planet, mostly, non-inhabitable, did incarnate and re-incarnate upon your planet of Earth and so in that sense, many of you are Martians. - in that sense. However, there are still some of the originals and you will be meeting them. Also, we have discussed as we were asked many times, the idea of the probes that your planet has sent to your Martian planet, in that they seem to cease to function as soon as they arrive. And we have again told you, it has nothing to do with many of the cover-ups and conspiracies on your planet, it has to do with the fact that someone at the other end did not want the probes there. And did something about it. We have told you that now more than once, and you will come to soon, in the near future, find reinforcement and corroboration for this idea. And we would direct your attention to another thing we have said : and that is, as we have been asked many times about many of the places on your planet, and especially with regard to what you call the vortices, the doorways, the gateways that exist upon your planet in energy terms that connect your world to other worlds, other dimensions of reality. We direct your attention to many of the things we have said about what you call your Santa Fe, NM area. We have told you many times that it is a unique kind of portal, in that there is, shall we say, a similar portal of similar frequency on many other worlds that tie directly into that portal you know on your planet as Santa Fe. And so it could be said in a way that there is a Santa Fe on many different planets and to be in that vortex is to automatically connect you energetically, dimensionally, to many, many, many other civilizations and realities. You will soon come to find that this is more literal and more immediate and more physical than you think. Q: Also I wanted to find out if you would be willing to divulge what you know about the Blondes. Or are you able to say any more about the Blonde races? B: One moment....Again there are a variety of appellations that you may have for different species that are called Blondes. We assume you are not referring to the concept of Pleiadeans? Q: You assumed right, yes. B: One moment, one moment....you are referring to in that sense to Procyon. Q: Procyon....but is there another location? Because Procyon was the one I brought up the last time. B: One moment, one moment. There are a few other locational bases...one moment...this much we are allowed to say because it will lead you in a certain direction. Some of them have established a very strong and large base in the system that you recognize as Alpha Centauri. And therefore many of them issue from there as well as Procyon. Q: Okay and what can you tell us about the Martians - what do they look like? B: At this point as we have said, mostly now because of the genetics - mostly human although in the more ancient form which still exists in some of the species they have a little bit of what you might call a proto - now this is just a affectation -- it is not really as distinct as what we are about to describe as the animal form, but in that sense they are /humanoid/ or what you would call humanoid but they have a slight characteristic of what you would call a type of proto-simian and ,or, almost a cat-like face. But again, this is very slight affectation, again they would appear to be just a little bit beyond the edge or the threshold of what you might typically on your planet call, a different race. You would recognize them as non-human but they are not /so/ non-human that they would appear to you to be much more different than just to you perhaps a very distinctive other race. Q: Yes. And how technologically advanced are they? B: At this point you will find again that they have an advancement about 100 to 150 years ahead of you but in their ancient culture they were really not as advanced as you are now on Earth. They have been given this technology by the Greys, to aid them in their survival. Q: Alright, so they're in contact with the Greys - open contact? B: O yes. It was the Greys who were responsible for the injection of the humanoid genetics that will help them survive on your planet. Q: Let me ask you a couple of questions about Cosmic Voyage. B: Yes. Q: Alright, he describes his remote viewing of a hybrid race, very unconditional loving between the Greys and humans. B: Yes. Q: The Sassani? B: Yes. Q: Okay. Now another thing about the book. I was reading it laying on my bed one night ,reading it and all and I had the distinct impression that I was being watched. Alright? B: Yes. Q: And then what I felt was...I kept looking around...like, 'what's going on here'? B: Did you feel a tickle? Q: Ah...(laughter)...yes! More or less, and what I sensed was...in the book he describes when he's remote viewing how Beings sense - you know well this being didn't sense me yet and then, oh this being senses me now. B: Yes Q: Alright , now was I doing the same thing? B: Do you mean were you experiencing someone sensing you? Q: No I mean was I sensing someone more or less, not the remote viewing but checking me out? B: Same difference. Q: Yes. B: Yes. Q: And that's what was going on? B: Yes. Q: Alright, and was this the Grey.... B: Yes. Q: My Grey counterpart? B: Yes. Q: Okay. And.... B: So many yes's...(laughter) Q: Yes...another thing in the book.... B: Although that's not all it was. Q: Okay. B: Some of it was us. Q: Oh, it was you. B: /Some/ of it....some of it was other things as well. Q: Alright, when I was reading the book and reading about the Martians and all, I had the distinct impression of -- I'm not going to say one or whatever but of being, like in caves or whatever, and checking out humans. B: Yes. Q: When humans come near them in their vicinity. B: Yes. Q: You know, and it just seemed like they were just like, you know, back in....you know what I mean...like checking it out from a distance. B: Yes, I know what you mean. Q: Okay, and their physical and non-dimensional reality on our planet? B: A few of them. Q: Yes, from the old race that used to inhabit the Martian planet when it was capable of inhabitation, yes. Q: Alright, now the ones he's spoken about that are....Santa Fe Baldy? Q: Are these physical, in our dimensional reality? B: Yes. Q: Okay, and the numbers are a high amount ? B: Hundreds. Q: Hundreds? B: Yes. Q: Okay, and what are they living on, what sustenance do they....? B: What they grow, what they get, what they are supplied with from time to time. Q: Okay, now when the Grey's interact with them...the Grey's that are interacting with them are they in our physical dimensional reality? B; When they interact from time to time they are, although there are interactions that take place in-between-worlds, so to speak, as well. Q: Okay, the shifting.... more or less the shifting is within our dimensional reality? B: But they also sometimes, shall we say, manifest or solidify in your particular reality in order for some of these interactions to take place, yes. Q: Blown away, you know, not blown away... but I really get off on the interactions that he had with Jesus and Buddha and all.... B: Yes. Q: What about any remote viewing with Lucifer? B: It can be done. Q: It can be done. Now, what kind of being is Lucifer? B: As we have said, it is the collective consciousness in that sense. Aspects not only of your world but of many different levels of dimensional reality, that has inflicted itself with a core seed issue of fear. Q: So it's the fear based consciousness. B: "Primally" so . It is the very essence of the concept of fear in that sense as a vibration. Q: Okay, that's why there's such negative connotations with it? B: Yes. Q: Was Lucifer at one time an angel? B: It has projected itself in a number of different dimensional ways and one representation of that collective being is the idea you call angelic existence, yes. Q: That is one representation of Lucifer. B: It is the one representation that makes sense to the linear reality in which you exist. Q: Okay, and alright Bashar, thanks a lot. B: Thank you. Q: Good day Bashar. B: And to you good day. Q: Bashar, I was wondering, in the UFO information that I've been exposed to, I have seen more UFO sightings over Mexico being recorded than perhaps any other area and I was wondering if there was a reason for this? B: It is in that sense - now understand I mean this not only in some specific aspects literally but I also mean this mostly in a general context of a certain kind of energy signature. It is the time of the return of Quetzalcoatl. Do you understand? Q: Yes. B: And thus in many of those ships is the energy of the idea that would be called the race of Quetzalcoatl, and that is why it is most apparent in that area. For that area is being re-identified with that ancient energy. Re...shall we say in your modern computer age...re-initialized? Do you understand the context? Q: A little bit. I'd like it if you could talk about it a bit more. B: Energy patterns are being re-arranged to accommodate the injection of a re-appearance and an ability to interact with the ancient energy you knew as Quetzalcoatl. The energy must be different in order for these interactions to take place because much has changed and is no longer similar to the vibrational frequency that used to exist that allowed such interactions to take place, once upon a time, as you say. Q: Do I understand that its limited to Quetzalcoatl...? B: No, it is not limited in that sense, but that is the primary motivating energy for that area. Q: Alright. And I also wondered about your civilization's relationship with your planet Sassani, if you spend so much time in your ship... B: I did not say we spent so much time, I simply said that our ships are our cities. Q: Okay. B: We are on our planet often, as well. But simply there are no built up structures except for a few circumstances for very specific reasons, and these even are simple. But we are on our planet's surface very often. Q: Thank you. B : Thank you. Q: The Martians...? B: Yes, what about them? Q: Will a part of our communication with them revolve around the fact that perhaps we have to go through a part...a segment of the Grey's that are helping to deal with them? B: Some of the communication with them has to do with your connection to the Greys, yes, but not all. You can be direct. Q: In our meditations and remote viewing? B: And physiologically. Q: Four years ago I was in the hills of Santa Fe doing a meditation of yours on that cassette tape. And we were very near Mount Baldy. I was wondering if that kind of interaction...? B: Which Mount Baldy? Q: Santa Fe Baldy. B: Alright. Yes, it was felt. Q; Ah, we can go there physically and actually have an interaction? B: Eventually, yes. If you make your physical presence there known, eventually there will be circumstance that will be appropriate for those inhabitants who have come from that planet no longer now inhabitable upon your world now that they live and hide. Eventually it will be appropriate for what you call "face to face" meeting. Just be persistent, but calm. Q: Is there a way that I might recognize the Martians...? B: Do you think you will have trouble knowing that? Q: (Laughter) In a dream? B: Do you think you will have trouble knowing that? Q: Well.... B: Especially in a dream? Q : What will the Martians look like, we been told they look like human beings. B: It may in your dreams look like itself in olden times before it was genetically altered. It may look like many things but the point is that you will receive some feeling and or symbology that will let you know directly who you are dealing with if that is appropriate in the interaction. You don't have to wonder about it, you don't have to worry about it. You will know when you know. Q: And will they have cat-like eyes? B: I said maybe, not always. You will still know in other ways. Are you not familiar with the idea that in many of what you call your dream experiences there are simply things that you know. You don't know how you know them but you know them anyway. Q: Yes. B: Well then, why should it be any different...in this case? Q: Okay, one more question. B: Oh, alright. Q: About the Sphinx.... B: Yessss... Q: This friend of some of ours is... B: Which Sphinx? Q: Ah ha...Oh...there it is ,thank you...Oh yes. B: Which Sphinx? Earth or Mars? Q: Hmmm....Earth. B: Oh alright, Earth Sphinx.... In the town of Mars. Q: In the town of Mars? B: In Cairo....means Mars. Q: Oh.....very interesting....In his left, or her left paw, there's a chamber .... B: And so.... Q: Below the paw. B: And so? Q: And we're interested that there ... we think there's some information containing our deep deep past. B: So? Q: Could this be possible ...be true? B: /Could/ it be possible? Yes. Q: Is that the right place? B: There are many chambers under the Sphinx that do contain information about your past, yes. That isn't the only one. Q: Ah....okay....okay. Is Mars...? B: You have a fondness for those two letters in your alphabet. (laughter) Q: Is Mars connected to Martians, are they connected to the creation of the crop circles? B: Indirectly in the same sense that they are a part of your collective consciousness, and as we have reminded many of you, regardless of the ones that are more directly genetically linked to the old race that used to live on the planet of Mars, many, many, many, many, many of what you would call the Martians have reincarnated as humans upon your Earth already anyway. So in that sense of course that are part and parcel...all, as you say, "mixed in" with everything that is going on because the crop circle phenomenology is a collective consciousness phenomenology and anyone in the neighborhood is participating some how. Q: But you have said at one point that the Grey's weren't involved in the crop circles? B: Not alone.... Tape Ends