From Gravity Thousand Oaks, CA 12-5-97 Q: Last time when Pamela was talking about Linda Wiegand whose children are being abused> B: Yes. Q: By a cult. B: Yes. Q: And you wouldn't talk about it, but you did say that "you are there for her." B: Yes. Q: You were being specific for Pamela for the moment. B: Yes. Q: And I assume that you are there for all of us that are helping her. B: Yes. Q: I was wondering what you mean by "there for us" in what sense are you there for us? B: I will give you one level of it. Remember that many of the strongest interactions that we and other beings such as ourselves and or spirit beings have with many humans is in what you call the dream state. In many dream interactions we are having what you consider to be on going contact, conversation, communication, interaction. In so far as you are willing, many of you, to stretch out in your dream state to see what it is you can do about changing your physical reality once you reconnect to it in what you call your waking state, we are there with you in those dream states discussing, planning, orientating, teaching, reflecting, learning and sharing the myriad of ideas that can be applied in your physical reality that you think is best to apply for the purpose for what is best for all concerned. And on that level that is one way that we are *there* for you. But when you wake up in your physical reality in that many of you have still understood this physical reality game on Earth to be one that requires random unknown in order to function in a way you prefer it to then many of you will simply, empirically forget many of those conversations consciously you will push them into a level of yourself that you typically call the subconscious so that it can run on automatic and simply allow you to direct yourself towards certain events in a spontaneous and creative way so that it simply doesn't become robotic or automatic in terms of how you fulfill what it is we have discussed in the etheric dream state realm. Because then you allow yourself the spontaneity of creation as to how to transform these things and it simply isn't the rote practice of simply repeating the steps we are talking about because there will always be a new factor when you are connected to a different reality such as physical life there will always be the spontaneous moment to moment creation that you have to take into account. So, in order to do that in the way that is best, you allow yourself to forget some of the things that we discussed, not that you will not implement them but you will implement them according to how it is appropriate for the physical reality you have reconnected to. Does that make sense to you? Q: Yes. B: Does that answer your question? Q: Yes, I have more. B: Yes, all right I figured that was the case. Q: Are there more alien groups than just yours that are helping her and us? B: Oh, yes. yes, yes, yes, yes. Q: Can you name any of them? B: Well many of them you know or some of them you know in the sense of what you typically call the Pleadians and the Orion's, and the Sirius group there ar3e several and there are some we can not name at this time. Q: But some of those groups are specifically helping this women, this situation? B: Some individual members in some of those groups are specifically helping the women you are referring to and many other people on your planet with regard to this particular issue which is a very important issue on your planet at this time since it is time to break the chain on your planet of those situations and circumstances that have created much of the disfunctionality in many of the adults, or the so called adults, that exist on your planet at this time. Q: Are you referring specifically to pedophilia or satanic.... B: All forms of what you typically call abuse. All forms of what you typically call the devaluation of the soul. Q: Is there also Angelic help involved? B: Yes, but that is not what we call an extraterrestrial being, per se in the way you classically mean it. Q: Right. And what is an Angel and how does it differ from a spirit guide? B: The Angelic consciousness is, as we refer to it, the level of consciousness that is the first differentiation from the One. It is the first level of split off from the undifferentiated whole of All That Is. The first reflection, the first moment of awareness, just to speak linearly, that what you call God or All That Is had that it was self-aware, caused a reflection. In order to see itself as self-aware that automatically implies a segregation, a separation, a self-reflection. That self-reflection because God is God created differentiated consciousness. That first split off, reflective differentiated consciousness is what you call Angelic consciousness. So to put it colloquially the Angels are the first level down from the One. The first differentiation of the One into the many. Then from there it goes down, down, down to different levels of Oversoul consciousness and into differentiated personality structure consciousness, such as spirits and souls and so forth. We are skipping a few levels but you are getting the point. Does that help you? Q: Yes. I wonder you earlier at some point some months ago, you mentioned a person that would come along this month December that would embody aspects of Lady Di and Mother Teresa, and some of us who know this women in question are wondering if you were referring specifically to her? B: You have made a misinterpretation. What we are saying is, not that there can not be specific embodiments that might reflect more are less the qualities you are referring to but the idea of the passing of those individuals requires now the embodiment of those qualities in *all of you!* They have now , in a sense, left the physical realm by showing you the kinds of things that need to be done so that in leaving you are forced to take those qualities into your own hearts and express them in your own way rather than simply letting them do it for you. It is the time of self responsibility, self-action and this is one of the reasons why many of those that act as symbols and reflections are going to leave so that it is up to you to embody those concepts and qualities within yourself and become your own version of them so to speak. Does that make sense to you? Q: It does and I like to tell you that the women (Linda) in question is here tonight and I was wondering if she wants to ask a question of you now or latter? B: You may wonder all you wish but probably you will get an answer if you ask. Q: Would you like to ask Bashar a question now or latter? Linda: Latter. Q: All right a little later. Thank you Bashar. All right-You good day!